Question Seagate Expansion 1TB too hot after copying files from it

[rounakr94]

Today I was copying files from a Seagate 1tb external to another Adata external hdd and the total size was around 300Gb. After copying the files I saw that the Seagate drive was considerably warmer than the Adata with Crystal Disk info showing it as yellow @58°C. The Adata on the other hand was cooler at sub 45°C.
Does this behaviour mean that the Seagate is nearing the end of its life or is this normal especially when the Seagate was not being written to? Ambient temps were around 30°C.

This is one of the drives out of my four backup drives.

 

[Ralston18]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Include PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, refurbished, used)?

Disk drive(s): make, model, capacity, how full?

List of all connected peripherals.

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From the context, I understand that the described warming up has not occurred before - correct?

How old is the Seagate drive? Does have its' own power source or rely on USB power from the host system?

Same question for the Adata drive? Drive capacity?

External drives - identical enclosures?

More information needed.

 

[rounakr94]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Include PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, refurbished, used)?

Disk drive(s): make, model, capacity, how full?

List of all connected peripherals.

= = = =

From the context, I understand that the described warming up has not occurred before - correct?

How old is the Seagate drive? Does have its' own power source or rely on USB power from the host system?

Same question for the Adata drive? Drive capacity?

External drives - identical enclosures?

More information needed.

The system is a Laptop, model Asus TUF FX505DT.
Both are 1tb drives. Adata drive was 100GB full and the Seagate was 750GB full.
Seagate is from 2016, Adata enclosed drive is a wd harvested from a old laptop and drive was manufactured in 2015.

Seagate uses the st1000lm035-1rk172
and Adata uses the wd10jpvx-80jc3t0 both in their respective enclosure from the company. No other peripherals were connected to the laptop.


Yes, the seagate Drive warming to 58°C up has never occurred before.
Also the Seagate drive has never been read from before and this is the first time that I have copied something that big from the drive.

 

[Ralston18]

The age of both external drives is concerning.

Do you have all data backed up to locations other than the laptop and the two external drives? Ensure that the backups are indeed recoverable and readable.

My immediate suggestion is to use an independently powered USB hub. Connect the drives to the hub versus the laptop. And then the hub to one of the laptop's USB ports.

As for the Seagate warming up to 58 C, I will need to defer to those with specific experience or knowledge regarding that drive and its' operating temperatures.

Especially where there is no past history regarding copying etc. for comparison purposes.

 

[rounakr94]

The age of both external drives is concerning.

Do you have all data backed up to locations other than the laptop and the two external drives? Ensure that the backups are indeed recoverable and readable.

My immediate suggestion is to use an independently powered USB hub. Connect the drives to the hub versus the laptop. And then the hub to one of the laptop's USB ports.

As for the Seagate warming up to 58 C, I will need to defer to those with specific experience or knowledge regarding that drive and its' operating temperatures.

Especially where there is no past history regarding copying etc. for comparison purposes.

Yes, I have 4 offline backups(including these two drives) of the same data.

 

[rounakr94]

The age of both external drives is concerning.

Do you have all data backed up to locations other than the laptop and the two external drives? Ensure that the backups are indeed recoverable and readable.

My immediate suggestion is to use an independently powered USB hub. Connect the drives to the hub versus the laptop. And then the hub to one of the laptop's USB ports.

As for the Seagate warming up to 58 C, I will need to defer to those with specific experience or knowledge regarding that drive and its' operating temperatures.

Especially where there is no past history regarding copying etc. for comparison purposes.

Update: I have opened up the drive and currently using it without the case and temps are below 50°C while copying another 250GB folder. I will transfer the drive to a metal enclosure once I can find one.

 

[JeffreyP55]

Update: I have opened up the drive and currently using it without the case and temps are below 50°C while copying another 250GB folder. I will transfer the drive to a metal enclosure once I can find one.

You did what? HDD are assembled in clean-rooms for a reason.

 

[rounakr94]

You did what? HDD are assembled in clean-rooms for a reason.

Please go through the entire thread and you will understand 😏

 

[JeffreyP55]

Please go through the entire thread and you will understand 😏

Couldn't you just finish transferring data without butchering the HDD, then throwing the drive into the recycling bin?

 

[rounakr94]

Couldn't you just finish transferring data without butchering the HDD, then throwing the drive into the recycling bin?

Dude, just use your eyes once ffs. The hdd is intact, I removed the external case (THE CASE THAT THE HDD COMES IN) to reduce the temperature, inside the case the HDD cooks itself to death (60C inside vs 48C outside).
I already have a replacement metal case on the way which should reach by tomorrow.

 

[SkyNetRising]

You did what? HDD are assembled in clean-rooms for a reason.

Probably opened external drive enclosure (not the drive itself).

 

[Misgar]

I've stopped using a collection of 3.5" USB3 desktop drives because they get too hot for my liking, unless I aim a large desktop fa over them. If you shuck the drives and install them in a PC with good cooling, drive temperatures can drop by 20°C. Mid 50's in USB housing, mid 30's in PC case.

 

[JeffreyP55]

I've stopped using a collection of 3.5" USB3 desktop drives because they get too hot for my liking, unless I aim a large desktop fa over them. If you shuck the drives and install them in a PC with good cooling, drive temperatures can drop by 20°C. Mid 50's in USB housing, mid 30's in PC case.

Aconis backups.. I'm running M.2 drives USB4. Testing USB speeds, 5, 10, 20 and 40 MB/s. 40MB/s runs at gen 3 speeds and by far the fastest. . The drives, especially running at USB4 they get hot but not too hot. I monitor them using HWinfo. Two Samsung 990 Pro's. Two backup M.2 for two PC's.

https://imgur.com/a/zcg5E1T

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[JeffreyP55]

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Aconis backups.. I'm running M.2 drives USB4. Testing USB speeds, 5, 10, 20 and 40 MB/s. 40MB/s runs at gen 2 speeds and by far the fastest. . The drives, especially running at USB4 they get hot but not too hot. I monitor them using HWinfo. Two Samsung 990 Pro's. Two backup M.2 for two PC's.

https://imgur.com/a/zcg5E1T

View: https://imgur.com/a/zcg5E1T

https://imgur.com/a/uLLvOpx

View: https://imgur.com/a/uLLvOpx

 

[Grobe]

There are many factors that may contribute to the HDD temperature - consider these:

• Current draw while idle vs. maximum current draw when operating.
• Are the file system layout in random order - i.e. fragmented? If yes - more head movement for same amount of data transfer, while if copy to an empty hdd will mostly fill data in same order, i.e. probably less head movement during writing.
• Are there other processes accessing files/folders on the same hdd?
• What orientation - and what surface does it face? A hdd that lies flat on a table will not transfer heat to surrounding air compared to one that is standing (not recommended in any way as a hdd that fall down from that position will likely suffer a fatal damage).
• Other factors regarding location and potentially nearby heat sources not clearly stated.