Question RTX 5070 Super When This Year?

[braxus]

I know its all rumors at this point, but they stated we may see the Super cards this year. Being we are already in mid year at this point, is it realistic we may see the Super cards this Fall, or even by Xmas time? Im still waiting for the time to get a GPU and prices on all better cards are still through the roof. So Im waiting for prices to come down and stock to get better. I could get a 5070 right now, but with the Super possibly coming soon, I'd rather wait if it means better performance. I do 8K video editing and I need as good a card as I can afford. And Nvidia cards seem the best for rendering videos and production uses. Anyone hear anything more on the Super cards?

 

[Aeacus]

is it realistic we may see the Super cards this Fall, or even by Xmas time?

Maybe, maybe not.

Although, we don’t expect Nvidia to bring a Super refresh for the RTX 50-series as soon as Computex 2025, for example, they would more likely arrive late in 2025 or even for CES 2026.

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It comes when Nvidia deems it so.

Which is, according to a source at one of Nvidia’s graphics card making partners, that there have been RTX 5080 GPUs with 24GB and RTX 5070 boards with 18GB in labs since last year.

In other words, testing on such models has been going on for half a year (or more – and various rumors go back some way, too). However, Nvidia told card manufacturers that these variants are ‘on hold’ until either the situation around pricing for video RAM improves – to make the price tags on these supposed Super models suitably palatable for PC gamers – or until Nvidia sees if these variants are really needed based on what AMD is doing.

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Im still waiting for the time to get a GPU and prices on all better cards are still through the roof. So Im waiting for prices to come down and stock to get better.

GPU prices will not come down. If anything, they go up.

GPUs are made in finite quantity. Every GPU released, costs more than the MSRP of it. Mainly due to high demand (especially Nvidia GPUs). And then, there are scalpers as well, whom i'm not even going to talk about.
E.g RTX 5070 MSRP is 550 bucks while the cheapest one i could currently buy locally is 700 bucks. If i were to order internationally, then 600 bucks.

 

[braxus]

Theres discussion Nvidia is losing market share to AMD, and the Nvidia cards are as a result are not selling very well, partially because of the inflated prices for them. AMD is killing it right now. Keep in mind Im just talking about the midgrade 5070 series, not the high end stuff which is perpetually out of stock.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

At my local Microcenter they regularly have 5080s and are having 5090s in store as well. AMD may have given them a shock but AMD is still a smaller player compared to nvidia.

 

[braxus]

That may be true, but no one wants to pay above MSRP pricing.

 

[USAFRet]

That may be true, but no one wants to pay above MSRP pricing.

Yet, over the last decade (or more), many have.

Especially on Zero Day releases of a high end device.

 

[Aeacus]

Theres discussion Nvidia is losing market share to AMD, and the Nvidia cards are as a result are not selling very well, partially because of the inflated prices for them.

Even when Nvidia looses 5% market share to AMD, they still hold triple the amount. So, there is no real competition to Nvidia.

And when you have a monopoly, you can ask whatever price you want.

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but no one wants to pay above MSRP pricing.

No-one wants, but many are.

Also, there's a simple choice:
* pay the price over MSRP
* get left out

E.g you have system without iGPU and your GPU dies. What are you going to do? Stop using the PC all together? Or buy a new GPU?

When RTX 40-series launched, many people bought the rest of the system and run off from iGPU, until stock filled again, so that they got their hands on the GPU. Having a GPU, despite the inflated price, is still better than having no GPU at all (especially when system doesn't have iGPU).

in 2024, 34.7 million GPUs were shipped. 30.2 million for Nvidia and 4.42 million for AMD.

That's 1 GPU per 236 people (considering population of earth in 2024). So, demand for GPUs is still high.

From 2023 to 2024, Nvidia has shipped 5 million more GPUs, while AMD in the same time has shipped 0.8 million GPUs less. Given by that, i won't say that no-one isn't buying Nvidia GPUs. On the contrary, people are buying more Nvidia GPUs and AMD is the one who is falling on GPU sales.

 

[braxus]

OK fair enough. Because of pricing I might have to stick with the 5070 series or 5070 Super, instead of the 5070Ti.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Not sure what resolution you’re at, but I’ll go out on the limb and be the guy that says with dlss and frame generation sound of these cards can get a good boost.

I picked up a 5060ti 16gb almost a month ago, what can I say it was msrp. So that card for $429 actually isn’t bad. I had amd gpus before for the last few years, I’d definitely consider buying another. But I have a 180hz 27 inch 1440p screen. To be honest the little 5060ti even at 1440p is kind of impressive when you consider its price point. For example if I’m using high settings on oblivion remastered, and using frame generation with dlss, I can get usually over 100fps. Other games like kingdom come deliverance 2 play great on it as well. I am actually a bit impressed the way they’re using ai etc with the newer cards, and I can see the reasoning because it stands to reason that at some point it gets harder to make faster and faster cards. My next gpu will be likely a 70 or 80 series from either company, but given my experience with the 5060ti, it makes you think as long as you have enough vram do you really need the $1000 dollar cards or more? I mean they’re nice but I so far am happy with this card for what I paid for it. It will definitely be a decent placeholder card until probably next year. Though if they bring out an 18gb 5070 super that would be a reporting card to get.

But you might look at the AMD 9070 and 9070xt. My local Microcenter just had 9070s for $659 and 9070xt cards for $699. So worth keeping an eye out.